Climate models are not reliable/don't include clouds and/or other feedbacks - Revision history

Coby at 19:14, 28 November 2008

2008-11-28T19:14:47Z

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	*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=100 'Is climate modeling science?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate		*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=100 'Is climate modeling science?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate
	*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/04/water-vapour-feedback-or-forcing 'Water Vapour: feedback or forcing?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate		*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/04/water-vapour-feedback-or-forcing 'Water Vapour: feedback or forcing?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate
-	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"	+	*[http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/03/models-are-unproven.php 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
	*[http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/04/models-dont-have-clouds.php 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"		*[http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/04/models-dont-have-clouds.php 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
	*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"		*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"
	*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"		*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"

Coby at 19:13, 28 November 2008

2008-11-28T19:13:20Z

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	*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/04/water-vapour-feedback-or-forcing 'Water Vapour: feedback or forcing?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate		*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/04/water-vapour-feedback-or-forcing 'Water Vapour: feedback or forcing?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate
	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"		*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
-	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"	+	*[http://scienceblogs.com/illconsidered/2006/04/models-dont-have-clouds.php 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
	*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"		*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"
	*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"		*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"

Mann at 01:41, 27 November 2008

2008-11-27T01:41:49Z

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	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"		*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
	*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"		*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"
-	*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"	+	*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"

Mann at 01:29, 27 November 2008

2008-11-27T01:29:32Z

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	*[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11649 'We can't trust computer models'] New Scientist "Climate Myths"		*[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11649 'We can't trust computer models'] New Scientist "Climate Myths"
	*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=100 'Is climate modeling science?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate		*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=100 'Is climate modeling science?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate
		+	*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2005/04/water-vapour-feedback-or-forcing 'Water Vapour: feedback or forcing?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate
	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"		*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"		*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
	*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"		*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"
	*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"		*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"

Mann at 01:25, 27 November 2008

2008-11-27T01:25:49Z

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	*[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11649 'We can't trust computer models'] New Scientist "Climate Myths"		*[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11649 'We can't trust computer models'] New Scientist "Climate Myths"
	*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=100 'Is climate modeling science?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate		*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=100 'Is climate modeling science?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate
-	*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/recent-warming-but-no-trend-in-galactic-cosmic-rays/ 'Recent Warming But No Trend in Galactic Cosmic Rays' ] Rasmus Benestad, RealClimate
	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"		*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
	*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"		*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
-	*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/4.html 'Recent warming cannot be explained by the Sun or natural factors alone'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"	+	*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/6.html 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"
		+	*[http://scholarsandrogues.wordpress.com/2007/07/23/anti-global-heating-claims-a-reasonably-thorough-debunking/#m13 'Denial myth #13'] 'Climate models predict the main features of future climate'] Scholars and Rogues "Anti-global heating claims"

Mann at 01:13, 27 November 2008

2008-11-27T01:13:11Z

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*[http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11649 'We can't trust computer models'] New Scientist "Climate Myths"
*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php?p=100 'Is climate modeling science?'] Gavin Schmidt, RealClimate
*[http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2004/12/recent-warming-but-no-trend-in-galactic-cosmic-rays/ 'Recent Warming But No Trend in Galactic Cosmic Rays' ] Rasmus Benestad, RealClimate
*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/19/51921/827 'Climate models are unproven'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
*[http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2006/11/11/221311/27 'Models don't take clouds into account'] Coby Beck "How to Talk to a Climate Skeptic"
*[http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/corporate/pressoffice/myths/4.html 'Recent warming cannot be explained by the Sun or natural factors alone'] UK Met Office "Climate change - the big picture"