{"id":26089,"date":"2025-07-08T19:08:32","date_gmt":"2025-07-09T00:08:32","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/?p=26089"},"modified":"2025-07-08T19:17:39","modified_gmt":"2025-07-09T00:17:39","slug":"melange-a-trois","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2025\/07\/melange-a-trois\/","title":{"rendered":"Melange \u00e0 Trois"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"26089\">\n\n<p>In honor of the revelation <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/07\/08\/climate\/trump-climate-energy-department.html\" title=\"today\">today<\/a>, that Koonin, Christy and Spencer have been made <a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Special_government_employee\" title=\"Special Government Employees\">Special Government Employees<\/a> at the Dept. of Energy, we present a quick round up of our commentary on the caliber of their arguments we&#8217;ve posted here over the last decade or so. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>TL;DR? The arguments are not very good.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Steve Koonin<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2019\/06\/koonins-case-for-yet-another-review-of-climate-science\/\" title=\"Koonin's reason\">Koonin&#8217;s case for yet another review of climate science<\/a> (2019)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Roy Spencer<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2024\/01\/spencers-shenanigans\/\" title=\"Spencer's Shenanigans\">Spencer&#8217;s Shenanigans<\/a> (2024)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2021\/01\/flyer-tipping\/\" title=\"\">Flyer Tipping<\/a> (2021)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2011\/04\/review-of-spencers-great-global-warming-blunder\/\" title=\"\">Review of Spencer&#8217;s Great Global Warming Blunder<\/a> (2011)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2011\/07\/misdiagnosis-of-surface-temperature-feedback\/\" title=\"\">Misdiagnosis of Surface Temperature Feedback<\/a> (2011)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2008\/05\/how-to-cook-a-graph-in-three-easy-lessons\/\" title=\"\">How to cook a graph in three easy lessons<\/a> (2008)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>John Christy<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2023\/03\/how-not-to-science\/\" title=\"\">How not to science <\/a>(2023)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2017\/03\/the-true-meaning-of-numbers\/\" title=\"The true meaning of numbers\">The true meaning of numbers<\/a> (2017)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2016\/05\/comparing-models-to-the-satellite-datasets\/\" title=\"Comparing models to satellite observations\">Comparing models to satellite observations<\/a> (2016)<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2007\/12\/tropical-troposphere-trends\/\" title=\"Tropical temperature trends \">Tropical temperature trends <\/a>(2007)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n\n\n<p>There is more in the archives if you care to look, but this should be sufficient background reading to start with. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>And, since people ask, the comparisons of the Spencer and Christy dataset (up-to-date version) and similar records to the climate models are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/climate-model-projections-compared-to-observations\/#msu\" title=\"Model-Observation Comparisons\">here<\/a> (and updated every year).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/images\/cmp_cmip6_tlt.png\" alt=\"\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 2879px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 2879\/1987;\" \/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><em>Figure: Comparison of the TLT records (three versions to estimate structural uncertainty) from the MSU\/AMSU\/AMSR instruments since 1979, with 36 CMIP6 climate models. <\/em><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 26089 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In honor of the revelation today, that Koonin, Christy and Spencer have been made Special Government Employees at the Dept. of Energy, we present a quick round up of our commentary on the caliber of their arguments we&#8217;ve posted here over the last decade or so. 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