{"id":311,"date":"2006-05-27T09:59:02","date_gmt":"2006-05-27T13:59:02","guid":{"rendered":"\/?p=311"},"modified":"2006-06-30T20:57:54","modified_gmt":"2006-07-01T00:57:54","slug":"positive-feedbacks-from-the-carbon-cycle","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2006\/05\/positive-feedbacks-from-the-carbon-cycle\/","title":{"rendered":"Positive feedbacks from the carbon cycle"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"311\">\n<p>Two papers appeared in Geophysical Research Letters today claiming that the warming forecast for the coming century may be underestimated, because of positive feedbacks in the carbon cycle.  One comes from Torn and Harte, and the other from Scheffer, Brovkin, and Cox.  Both papers conclude that warming in the coming century could be increased by carbon cycle feedbacks, by 25-75% or so.  Do we think it&#8217;s time to push the big red Stop the Press button down at IPCC? <!--more--><\/p>\n<p>The approaches of both papers are similar.  The covariation of temperature versus CO<sub>2<\/sub> (and methane in Torn and Harte) is tabulated for a record in the past. For the Torn and Harte paper, the time frame chosen is the last 360,000 years, while Scheffer et al. focus on the Little Ice Age, from 1500-1600 A.D.  In both cases it is assumed that the climate shift is driven by some external thermal driver.  As the temperature warms (in the case of the deglaciation) or cools (the LIA), the CO<sub>2<\/sub> concentration of the atmosphere changes in the sense of a positive feedback, rising associated with warming or falling in response to cooling.  The changing CO<sub>2<\/sub> drives a further change in temperature.  <\/p>\n<p>In general, it is clear that eventually the sense of these articles could be correct.  The response of the terrestrial biosphere to rising CO<sub>2<\/sub> could go either way; toward an increase in uptake because of CO<sub>2<\/sub> fertilization or a longer growing season (as we see today) versus an increase in soil carbon respiration in warmer conditions (the reason why tropical soils contain so little carbon).  Uncertainties in the response of the terrestrial biosphere to rising CO<sub>2<\/sub> is a major source of uncertainty for the climate change forecast (Cox et al., 2000).  <\/p>\n<p>The oceans are presently taking up about 2 Gton C per year, a significant dent in our emissions of 7 Gton C per year.  This could slow in the future, as overturning becomes inhibited by stratification, as the buffer loses its capacity due to acidification. Eventually, the fluxes could reverse as with a decrease in CO<sub>2<\/sub> solubility due to ocean warming.  <\/p>\n<p>The biggest question, however, before pushing the Stop the Press button at IPCC, is timing.  The CO<sub>2<\/sub> transition through the deglaciation took 10,000 years.  (Actually this helps to constrain the cause of the CO<sub>2<\/sub> transition, because the air\/sea equilibration time scale for CO<sub>2<\/sub> would be considerably shorter than that.)  The timescale that seems intrinsic to IPCC is a century or so, during which we should be able to reap only a small fraction of any harvest that takes 10,000 years to grow.  The Scheffer et al paper avoids this issue by restricting its attention to a time period of just a century.     <\/p>\n<p>Scheffer et al illustrate the potential feedback for the coming century in a figure which looks something like Figure A.  <\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" data-src=\"http:\/\/geosci.uchicago.edu\/~archer\/carbon_feedbacks.jpg\" width=\"80%\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" class=\"lazyload\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Temperature depends on CO<sub>2<\/sub> concentration via radiative equilibrium in the blue curves, and CO<sub>2<\/sub> concentration in the air is affected by temperature according to the red lines.  A rise in CO<sub>2<\/sub> concentration from an external source changes the equilibrium CO<sub>2<\/sub> as a function of T relation toward higher CO<sub>2<\/sub>, to the right, labeled &#8220;forcing&#8221;.  The stable final equilibrium is where the two relations cross, with further CO<sub>2<\/sub> degassing from the land or the ocean, so that more CO<sub>2<\/sub> ends up in the atmosphere than would have if there were no feedback (a vertical red line).  A climate sensitivity calculated from the coupled system is higher than one that ignores any carbon cycle feedbacks.  <\/p>\n<p>The situation today is complicated somewhat by a carbon spike transient.  Atmospheric CO<sub>2<\/sub> is rising so quickly that the terrestrial biosphere and the ocean carbon reservoirs find themselves far out of equilibrium.  In attempting to keep up, the other reservoirs are taking up massive amounts of CO<sub>2<\/sub>.  If emissions were to stop today, it would take a few centuries for the atmosphere to equilibrate, and it would contain something like 25% of our emitted CO<sub>2<\/sub>.  <\/p>\n<p>I would draw our current situation as in Figure B, with CO<sub>2<\/sub> concentration wildly higher than the equilibrium red line, poised to relax toward lower concentrations if emissions stopped.  The effect of the carbon cycle feedback is to change the equilibrium atmospheric CO<sub>2<\/sub> that we are relaxing toward.  It seems to me that the most important part of the equation for our immediate future is the decay rate of that carbon spike, rather than the equilibrium value that CO<sub>2<\/sub> will relax to in hundreds of years.  <\/p>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 311 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Two papers appeared in Geophysical Research Letters today claiming that the warming forecast for the coming century may be underestimated, because of positive feedbacks in the carbon cycle. One comes from Torn and Harte, and the other from Scheffer, Brovkin, and Cox. 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