{"id":485,"date":"2007-10-15T18:42:23","date_gmt":"2007-10-15T23:42:23","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2007\/10\/did-you-stop-beating-your-wife-yes-no\/"},"modified":"2007-12-26T17:20:21","modified_gmt":"2007-12-26T22:20:21","slug":"did-you-stop-beating-your-wife-yes-no","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2007\/10\/did-you-stop-beating-your-wife-yes-no\/","title":{"rendered":"The &#8220;Have you stopped beating your wife yet (yes\/no)&#8221; questionnaire"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"485\">\n<p>I got an email Climate Expert Survey today from <a href=\"http:\/\/DemandDebate.com\">DemandDebate.com<\/a>, a creation of <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sourcewatch.org\/index.php?title=Steven_J._Milloy\">Steve Milloy<\/a>.  Milloy has practiced to deceive <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2006\/11\/cuckoo-science\/\">before<\/a> in the climate arena, and his <a href=\"http:\/\/junkscience.com\">junkscience.com<\/a>, claiming to debunk the junk science of others, is actually a terrific source of specious deception in its own right. This survey looks like another such initiative.  <b>(Note added later: If you get a copy of this, post a comment or send us an email.  We&#8217;d like to keep track.)<\/b><\/p>\n<p><!--more--><\/p>\n<p>First question.  <i>Which best describes the reason(s) for climate change?<\/p>\n<p>[   ] Human activity is the principal driver of climate change.<br \/>\n[   ] Human activity drives climate change, but natural variability is also important.<br \/>\n[   ] Natural variability drives climate change, but human activity is also important.<br \/>\n[   ] Natural variability is the principal driver of climate change.<br \/>\n[   ] No opinion.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>The problem with this question is that it doesn&#8217;t specify what time frame I am to consider.  Before the twentieth century, natural climate change was probably the most important factor.  However, I fear that if I allow that, on whatever time scale, &#8220;natural variability is also important&#8221; my response will be used to argue that &#8220;X% of expert climate scientists think that natural variability is an important driver of climate&#8221;.  As, of course, it is, but natural variability is no argument against the danger of human-induced climate change.  <\/p>\n<p>Second question.  <i>Which best describes the role of manmade CO2 emissions in climate change?<\/p>\n<p>[   ] Manmade CO2 emissions are the principal driver of climate change.<br \/>\n[   ] Manmade CO2 emissions drive climate change, but other natural and human-related factors are also important.<br \/>\n[   ] Other natural and\/or human-related factors drive climate change, but manmade CO2 emissions are important.<br \/>\n[   ] Other natural and\/or human-related factors are the principal drivers of climate change.<br \/>\n[   ] No opinion.<\/i><\/p>\n<p>Gee.  We can&#8217;t choose the first option, because climate is sometimes also driven by the intensity of the sun, or by wobbles in the Earth&#8217;s orbit, or collapsing ice sheets&#8230;  Again, though, if the question had been just about the last 30 years, the first option would be arguably right.  But that&#8217;s not the question asked.   Again, &#8220;X% of climate experts surveyed said that natural variability is important.&#8221;  Again, it is, on some time scales.  But it doesn&#8217;t give any reason not to fear global warming.  <\/p>\n<p>The questions being asked here are similar to another equally abused survey by <a href=\"http:\/\/timlambert.org\/2005\/05\/bray\/\">Bray<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/blogs.nature.com\/climatefeedback\/2007\/08\/climate_scientists_views_on_cl_1.html\">von Storch<\/a>.  This survey is part of a larger agenda to try to challenge the consensus of climate scientists, and given <a href=\"http:\/\/www.logicalscience.com\/consensus\/consensusD1.htm\">the long list of statements of consensus from scientific organizations<\/a>, you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d give up already.<\/p>\n<p>I declined to participate in the survey and would advise you to do the same.  <\/p>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 485 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I got an email Climate Expert Survey today from DemandDebate.com, a creation of Steve Milloy. Milloy has practiced to deceive before in the climate arena, and his junkscience.com, claiming to debunk the junk science of others, is actually a terrific source of specious deception in its own right. This survey looks like another such initiative. 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