{"id":498,"date":"2007-11-13T14:07:30","date_gmt":"2007-11-13T19:07:30","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2007\/11\/bbc-contrarian-top-10\/"},"modified":"2007-12-26T17:17:21","modified_gmt":"2007-12-26T22:17:21","slug":"bbc-contrarian-top-10","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2007\/11\/bbc-contrarian-top-10\/","title":{"rendered":"BBC contrarian top 10"},"content":{"rendered":"<div class=\"kcite-section\" kcite-section-id=\"498\">\n<p>There is an interesting, if predictable, <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/science\/nature\/7081026.stm\">piece<\/a> up on the BBC website devoted to investigating whether there is any &#8216;consensus&#8217; among the various contrarians on why climate change isn&#8217;t happening (or if it is, it isn&#8217;t caused by human activity or if it is why it won&#8217;t be important, or if it is important, why nothing can be done etc.). Bottom line? The only thing they appear to agree about is that nothing should be done, but they have a multitude of conflicting reasons why. Hmm&#8230; <\/p>\n<p>The journalist, Richard Black, put together a <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/2\/hi\/in_depth\/629\/629\/7074601.stm\">top 10 list<\/a> of sceptic arguments he gathered from emailing the 61 signers of a <a href=\"http:\/\/illconsidered.blogspot.com\/2006\/04\/oh-canada.html\">Canadian letter<\/a>. While these aren&#8217;t any different in substance to the ones routinely debunked here (and <a href=\"http:\/\/environment.newscientist.com\/channel\/earth\/dn11462\">here<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/gristmill.grist.org\/skeptics\">here<\/a>), this list comes with the imprimatur of Fred Singer &#8211; the godfather to the sceptic movement, and recent convert from the view that it&#8217;s been cooling since 1940 to the idea that global warming is <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2006\/11\/avery-and-singer-unstoppable-hot-air\/\">now unstoppable<\/a>. Thus these are the arguments (supposedly) that are the best that the contrarians have to put forward. <\/p>\n<p>Alongside each of these talking points, is a counter-point from the mainstream (full disclosure, I helped Richard edit some of those). In truth though, I was a little disappointed at how lame their &#8216;top 10&#8217; arguments were. In order, they are: false, a cherry pick, a red herring, false, false, false, a red herring, a red herring, false and a strawman. They even used the &#8216;grapes grew in medieval England&#8217; meme that you&#8217;d think they&#8217;d have abandoned already given that more grapes are grown in England now than ever before (see <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2006\/07\/medieval-warmth-and-english-wine\/\">here<\/a>). Another commonplace untruth is the claim that water vapour is &#8216;98% of the greenhouse effect&#8217; &#8211; it&#8217;s just <a href=\"http:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/archives\/2006\/01\/calculating-the-greenhouse-effect\/\">not<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>So why do the contrarians still use arguments that are blatantly false? I think the most obvious reason is that they are simply not interested (as a whole) in providing a coherent counter story. If science has one overriding principle, it is that you should adjust your thinking in the light of new information and discoveries &#8211; the contrarians continued use of old, tired and discredited arguments demonstrates their divorce from the scientific process more clearly than any densely argued rebuttal. <\/p>\n<!-- kcite active, but no citations found -->\n<\/div> <!-- kcite-section 498 -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There is an interesting, if predictable, piece up on the BBC website devoted to investigating whether there is any &#8216;consensus&#8217; among the various contrarians on why climate change isn&#8217;t happening (or if it is, it isn&#8217;t caused by human activity or if it is why it won&#8217;t be important, or if it is important, why [&hellip;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_exactmetrics_skip_tracking":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_active":false,"_exactmetrics_sitenote_note":"","_exactmetrics_sitenote_category":0,"_genesis_hide_title":false,"_genesis_hide_breadcrumbs":false,"_genesis_hide_singular_image":false,"_genesis_hide_footer_widgets":false,"_genesis_custom_body_class":"","_genesis_custom_post_class":"","_genesis_layout":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[1,24],"tags":[],"class_list":{"0":"post-498","1":"post","2":"type-post","3":"status-publish","4":"format-standard","6":"category-climate-science","7":"category-reporting-on-climate","8":"entry"},"aioseo_notices":[],"post_mailing_queue_ids":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/498","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=498"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/498\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=498"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=498"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.realclimate.org\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=498"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}